Journal - "A Kink Meme?"

[leskuh]

So, I might have made an anonymous kink meme for the Sims....

I'll give you guys the link to the comm soon enough and ask you to PIMP IT OUT, but for now I just need input.

What should I allow as far as what kind of sims should be allowed? Because the problem is that you can make ANYONE with the sims and so you venture into RPF and even weirder than Sim celebrity RPF would be the inevitable Sim player RPF. I don't mind RPF even if it ain't my thing, but it seems like it could get REALLY wanky REALLY fast if we start bringing in internet personas and that sort of thing. And wank in a porn meme is upsetting.

So I'm thinking about saying no RPF Sims at all, but am worried about the backlash that might cause. But not REALLY worried. It's just like... I can see the inevitable wank storm it might bring, but I think it'd be good for the Sims comm to hear 'no' or even just "I am sad for you but thems the breaks."

I also thought about just limiting it to premades, but that's no fun! People definitely have ships from other's legacies or their own or even from somebody else's story and I think it'd be neat to have that option available.

I AM SO CONFLICTED.

Tell me what you think!

Comments

[simgaroop.livejournal.com]

I've never joined a kink meme, so I'm an absolutely n00b regarding them.

Are they only for porn? I mean, I'd love to participate and write for it, but I'm not good at "spicy" scenes at all. I prefer fluff and emotional stuff, perhaps because that's what I'm good at :P.

Anyway, I think you should only go for Sims characters for the meme. As in premade characters and maybe sims from other legacies (i.e. developed personalities/backstory).

Yeah, I think that including sims from other fandoms would not follow the original intent of the meme, and if you've ever been to More Awesome Than You, there's an ongoing story called "Awesomeland" (featuring the members of said forum) and the wank there is epic.

One last question, considering this is a sims meme: Do you need to include pictures with the prompts? Or is it OK to just use text?

[strange-tomato.livejournal.com]

I'm curious about that too. I think emotional stuff, if it's somehow erotic in some way, should be okay, right? (Help me out here, Alyssa?) I don't think it has to be completely hardcore or anything, but the name "kink" meme gives a certain impression. I think it's just meant in the sense of "satisfy this kink of mine..." which could also be just a purely fluffy romantic scene.

Am I right?

Also, including pictures could be very cool and unique for this sort of thing, I think. Maybe it could be optional? Personally, I would feel that it would give me away (and I'd know your work too, for that matter), so I might not use images. Then again, some people would recognize my writing too, so maybe it doesn't matter.

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

I believe your right and since I'm creating it, I'll probably be pretty lenient.

Here's the master list most comms link to:

http://eliade.livejournal.com/472331.html

And there's definitely more than just straight up: SEXY TIMES! listed.

And I was totally going to add a part about The Sims being a fairly visual fandom so pics are okay (as long as you don't go CRAZY and try to limit yourself), but aren't a requirement. I think kink memes generally allow you to draw art as well as write, but most people write? IN ANY CASE THIS IS MY KINK MEME AND I SAY PICS ARE COOL!

[strange-tomato.livejournal.com]

That's a great list. I'll have to scan it again later for ideas.

The wank seems likely, though. With simsecret as it is, I can easily see people flying off the handle over things like non-con or incest (considering that some people consider sim 8th cousins to be squick inducing... yeah, haHAH... people could get easily offended).

The thing that people need to realize is that something like this is there purely for the people that want it. With requests in place, it should be easy for them to avoid things they don't want to read, unless they're just so morbidly curious that they can't resist, and that's their own fault.

(Oh man. I just tried to think of an example of something I wouldn't read, but then it turned into something I will probably request... so many ideas out there.)

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

I still have to read through it for reals some day. There's just SO MUCH on it!

I'm hoping that it won't get drama-filled, because it's not a comm that was made to fuel drama or tell horrible secrets. It's a comm that's meant to get people writing smut! And a comm that clearly doesn't want anything to do with RL people or their hang ups or whatever. IT JUST WANTS PORN.

considering that some people consider sim 8th cousins to be squick inducing... yeah, haHAH... people could get easily offended

LOL! Oh sims comm you are so silly and quick to jump to the defensive on everything.

I put in a rule about not being a dick and respecting other people's ships/kinks/etc. Also, the whole "if you don't like the request, than DON'T FUCKING READ THE FIC." thing is in place.

Haha, I'll probably read a lot of what people end up writing, but I do think there's stuff that'll just bore me. It was like that with the KH kink meme. There was so much of this one slash pairing that I just don't really care for and it got old fast.

The weirder the better, I say. :D

[simgaroop.livejournal.com]

For me, it's much more enjoyable to write and read about what happens before and after "the action" than the event itself. Maybe it's my experience reading bad fanfic a few years ago, but there was a point in which I could recite how would every sex scene develop in any story... I dunno, the descriptions are often too mechanical, lacking emotions.

As the people of MATY would say, I'm such a silly F-ly individual (from the Myers-Brigs test, I'm a "feeling" person instead of a "judging" one).

You're absolutely right! I'll keep that mind regarding the pictures. I guess I'll have to control my freckle-love when I take them! ;)

[strange-tomato.livejournal.com]

I agree with you there. That's why I'm usually more than happy with the "fade to black" technique. It also leaves it open for the reader to interpret.

I think the challenge of writing a sex scene would be in not having it sound mechanical or unrealistic or completely silly, and I know that's a worthy challenge. I've read examples of good erotic stories, but I've also read some bad Harlequin romance too (as a young, impressionable preteen, sneaking a look at my mother's collection). It's easy to write this stuff badly, but it can be done well. I think a lot should be said for keeping a sense of humour in it too.

I'm glad we've made it clear that kinks do not have to be explicitly sexual. I would consider requests for something really emotional and angsty to be a kink too, and it's something that people would seek out.

Yeah, and not just the freckles. I would consider (for myself) using a whole new set of defaults if I was going to do images. I'm not sure if I will, but it might be fun to try. I know someone started up a straight up "sexy sim stories" community a while back, that was meant to be for more adult sim stories, but it never took off.

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

I am a n00b too! And I'm creating the comm! So it should be fun, I hope!

I'm going to be pretty open about kinks and say that just about anything can go. It doesn't have to be 'sexy' or explicit. If someone has a craving for "Johnny, Tank, Ripp, Buck, Frances, Ophelia, and Jill / FALLING ASLEEP IN A BIG PILE LIKE ADORABLE KITTENS" I am going to totally allow it. Sometimes we just NEED adorable things.

That's definitely what I'm going with I believe. Sims based on real people just leads down a BAD ROAD I think. And I want to be totally up front about it and let people know that it won't be acceptable, end of discussion.

Haha, I don't go to MATY that much, but that's hilarious and yeah, I can see how that would cause so much wank. I think adding kinks and ANONYMOUS to something like that would just make it a BILLION times worse.

I'm gonna say that if you would like to include a pic or two, go right ahead! You don't have to, of course, and could you please try to limit yourself to no more than 5 pics a response.

[simgaroop.livejournal.com]

I've just read the list you posted above and now I'm really interested in participating. I like how it takes in consideration much more than just "lemon" scenes (mine are often awkward, but then again, maybe the anonymity will free me from my inhibitions as a writer).

Yeah, I think that the RPF road would eventually hurt people. Some people in the Sims community love to be mean and insult people just for the sake of it (something I don't understand, to be honest), and this is supposed to be fun, am I right?

I'll keep the picture limit in mind and that sounds good too!. Strange is right, though. I'll have to be "creative" with my CC usage or people will figure out it's me in no time (i.e. no freckles! :P).

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

Hee, it's been awhile since I've seen someone use the word 'lemon'! And 'lime' was used to describe sexy stuff that wasn't quite smut, right?

I still haven't read through the whole list, but there's definitely some awesome stuff in there, along with some kind of creepy stuff. And I'm a pretty lenient person, so basically kink for me is going to be defined by like: "A fic idea that gets in your head and makes you go I NEED." Not necessarily smutty, but that satisfies some sort of craving the original requester had.

Basically, if someone wants to make an RPF Sim kink meme, they can go ahead and make one. I just don't want it in mine, because I don't feel like dealing with egos and people being assholes to one another. I just want this to be fun!

Awesome! I'm all for pics as long as people don't go crazy with them and overload a response with them.

[simgaroop.livejournal.com]

I admit I'm probably outdated with my fanfiction terms, but both "lemon" and "lime" (which means just what you said) were pretty common in the Digimon fandom a million years ago. At least that's where I learned about them *wipes tear*

I agree with your definition of kink. Earlier I was in the mood for a fluffy, ridiculous fanfic or story (must be PSM) and I couldn't find it anywhere. I'm glad there's now a community where I'll be able to request that kind of stuff too :).

If someone makes a RPF Sim kink meme... I guess they'd probably insane. The amount of wank they'd deal with would be epic (and boring).

[leskuh.livejournal.com]

Haha, I think they just go by smut and porn and all that now. No more cutesy terms. I used to use "lemon" and "lime" though! It was all anyone used a couple years ago.

I'm up for both smutty stuff and totally G-rated things. I am going to be such a lazy mod (I hope!) and allow most anything.

I know some people are all like: HURRAY MOAR DRAMA. But like.. I don't even UNDERSTAND half the wank and it's just dull and boring IMO. So yeah, don't want to make that comm and don't want to participate in a comm like that.